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Show posts MenuQuote from: CaptainD on Tue 13/09/2016 23:46:50Lilo and Stitch did the sister dynamic before, and Brave was also about the relation between two female family members, albeit a mother and daughter.Quote from: Snarky on Tue 13/09/2016 23:09:21
The focus on sisterhood and rejection of Prince Charming are also firsts in a Disney movie, I believe.
Okay, possibly being a tad unfair with earlier comments - as mentioned I did enjoy the movie, just didn't think about it too hard maybe!
The feisty heroine bit had certainly been done before in Mulan, but I guess she in a way had a "Prince Charming". I haven't seen all of them. Nothing beats The Jungle Book for me!
Quote from: Snarky on Tue 13/09/2016 23:09:21Yes, it's a real shame you don't see many 2D movies being produced anymore, I remember growing up watching Disney and Don Bluth movies over and over again, I felt they looked like picture-books given life and they inspired me to draw things myself.
My main beef with current Disney movies is simply that I wish they would go back to 2D animation, or at least animation with more of a 2D look. Ever since Tarzan and its Deep Canvas system, and then later with the Meander system used in "Paperman", they've had tools to do really nice painterly stuff that allows them to put hand-painted/drawn things into a 3D scene (though I didn't think "Feast" worked very well: basically just looked like cel-shaded 3D), but all feature movies have this cheap videogamey 3D look. I had hoped Moana would be 2D, since the Polynesian setting lends itself beautifully to more loosely painted backgrounds. Ah well.
Quote from: Snarky on Tue 13/09/2016 11:39:31Most interesting, thanks for the read!
The death of cinematic cartoon shorts came about largely because a Supreme Court antitrust ruling forced the separation of cinema chains from movie studios. In the old days, studios like Warner, MGM, Paramount, etc. owned the movie theaters and controlled the programming (so a particular cinema would show only films from a particular studio). The ruling meant they had to sell them off, and that there had to be an open market in deciding what each cinema would show. The court also started to enforce an earlier decision that it was illegal to "block-book" short films along with feature-length films (i.e. sell them as a package). This made them much harder to sell, since people didn't usually buy movie tickets for short films but for main features, so they were an obvious target for cinema chain cost-cutting (the movie business went into a major decline around this time). Within a few years they were all but gone.
Quote from: CaptainD on Tue 13/09/2016 13:41:32That is also something which baffles me, since I can't really think of anything that Frozen did that other Disney/Pixar movies haven't done before. Compared with previous Disney movies, such as this scene from Pocahontas or The hunchback from Notre Dame,
I thought Frozen was good, not necessarily outstanding. It was phenomenally popular because it hit all the right social consciousness buttons at the right time.
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