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OMG! STUH505 MAKES ME ILL!!! (And "gell" only has one 'l')


Touche! With extra-added-gelness

3 photos of freshness!


This was at about 2 in the afternoon. I'd been out all night, and crashed at my friend Candise's place. She took this as soon as I woke up and got out of bed. How nice. Sorry if the blurriness kills your eyes.


I'm happy. Yay.


I get kinda self-absorbed when preparing for a big night out. So naturally if you spring a photo on me I'm gonna look like this... Don't hate me...

very VERY drunk. I wish I had a nicer photo to show for myself, but alas, none of those are suitable for a family forum...

You are right, Kinoko.

It is terribly hard to say anything on a forum without people telling you you're wrong. However I wasn't aiming to do that... I was just having a lark...

...or whatever you youngin's call it these days...

*sigh* Wouldn't it be nice if we could all just be friends and make adventure games together.

Except for the fact that you tried to launch a flame-war thread - tactlessly disguised as a drug issue...

Tea Party, anyone?

I would agree that Christianity can be interpreted as repressive, however I'm not sure that it is. I'm old enough to make my own mind up about things, and I certainly haven't been brainwashed, so it's seems unusual that I would defend something if I found it to be repressive.

Most people (not all, I know. Especially not non-christians) would agree that looking at pornography is wrong - or at least has some distasteful elements to it. Thinking lustful thoughts is like looking at pornography without the screen/magazine. NOT thinking lustful thoughts is a wise choice (for the christian mind), however that doesn't mean it's repressive. Although you are told to try and stop doing dirty things (whether your believe porn is dirty or not is another issue), the bible admits that people often DO think these thoughts. That's where the whole forgiveness issue comes in.

Repression is quite a strong word. It talks about lack of control, being controlled by another force etc. I would find it hard to dispute that the God who is willing to forgive you and accept you for every wrong thing you do is also repressing you. No? Sure - he tells us not to do things, but that's just 'moral conduct' (again  - I'm not saying these should be your morals, but they're mine).

Our parents told us 'no' a million times when we were young, but that wasn't repression. That was teaching obedience, and respect. As soon as a big invisible guy in the clouds comes into the conversation, people are quick to accuse him of the same thing being bad...

If I knew who the hell you were talking about, I might comment.

(don't laugh at me just because I'm an unsociable being unaware of apparently 'finer points' in life..)

Even if you did have a wank in front of Jesus, he'd forgive you, right? Isn't that how it works?

You are absolutely 100% right.

But also 100% wrong.

You could kill someone and god would forgive you. That doesn't make it okay to do it again though.

The whole point of becoming a christian is to say: "okay - I know I do wrong things, but I will try to stop doing them". People who just abuse it and say "I do what I want, coz god loves me" aren't true christians.

And DG: I agree. My point was very extremist, although if I were to hunt through all your previous posts in other threads and quote your extremist statements, this would be a massively long message. You don't use them to pinpoint your argument. You use them to illustrate. Anyone who claims repression is the same as resisting temptation is (from a biblical point of view) wrong. If you wanted to run free around the fields, but weren't able to, that is repression. Resisting temptation is being PERFECTLY CAPABLE of doing something wrong and immoral, but choosing not to do it for righteous reasons.

[glad]

I'd call that being repressed.

You mean when a husband gets so angry he is about to beat his wife, but then resists the temptation he is actually repressing himself?

I know what your perspective is, but temptation isn't about repression. It's about not doing things that are bad (aka sinful). If that's still classified as repression, then I'm jolly well happy to say I'm repressed and glad to be!

That omni-potent/spective/present was just a consideration issue. All Christians believe that God is everywhere and can see everything. But that doesn't mean we always behave like it. What Minimi said was just to re-focus the attention. Because Jesus cannot physically be in the room.

Not yet, anyway...

eggie is neither man nor woman.

Eggie is! And that's all there is to it. Eggie just simply is!

Shabz: as long as you keep your mind 'clean' so to speak, then there is nothing wrong with masturbation. It's certainly better than going out and getting bonked every couple of hours.....

although I'm yet to meet a man (or woman, I suppose) who can masturbate over a boiled egg...

Do you mean to say that you've stopped completely? How on Earth is that possible?

My sentiments exactly...

You have the capacity to make me think unwholesome thoughts.........

...I like you...            
...and hate you..........all at once....   (kidding)

My dear friend Os - you do like to tread on thin ice, don't you!   8)

God was the one who 'got' mary pregnant, so to speak.

Mary would've been in her very early teens when she gave birth to Jesus. Jospeh would've been maybe 17 (exact age unclear)

It would've been near impossible for Mary to have sex with someone else at such an early age, and to not show any physical signs of it...

simple answer: no

EDIT:

long answer: Some people argue that Onan was punished for masturbating, but from the context in Genesis 38:6-10, it's quite clear that God put Onan to death not because of the "masturbation" (how it could be masturbation when he was actually having sexual intercourse is beyond me), but because he was shirking his duty to produce children to carry on his brother's name. The Old Testament law called for a brother to marry his widowed sister-in-law and produce a child to carry on the dead man's name (Deuteronomy 25:5-6). This guy Onan knew that if the lady had a child, it wouldn't be considered his, so he "spilt his seed" to prevent her from conceiving. That's why what he did was considered wicked in the Lord's sight. It was his motive that made his action wrong; nowhere does it suggest that his action was wrong in itself.

Don't reply saying that having sex with a widowed-sister-in-law is gross. I know. That's why the law got changed....

An denying such emotions is like denying your own existence.

Really? I'd just call it resisting temptation...

As for the masturbation issue - in itself it isn't a sin. There is no mention of it in the bible. However, it is quite clear about the illicit sexual fantasies that go with it...

Matt 5:28-29 (NIV) [Jesus:] "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell."

So whilst you can wiggle with your wangle all you want, be careful that your best friend's mum doesn't creep in there as well (or whatever other fantasies you freaks have  )

And I agree with whoever said sex was good. The bible tells us that Christians are to be the BEST lovers in THE WORLD (within marriage, duh!). MUAHAHAHAH!

THANK YOU, ERIC!

I am deeply in love with you, and now wish to have your child. Repeatedly. I shall change gender JUST to make it possible....

Yes, DG, I am aware of what dictionary.com defines as a risk. It's a relatively common word. But that doesn't make it safe or right.

Robbing a bank is a risk, because - hell - you could get shot.

I know there's a difference between banks and sex blah blah blah - but it explains my viewpoint.

If you want to take the risk - fine. I don't

P.S - I realise I talk to much, and I often seem to get very defensive about things..... I'm trying my hardest to remain sedated... forgive me...

[I know not everyone get's addicted to sex!]

Actually, I have to disagree with Pirate Jack.

83% of all affairs occurr when the partner doing the cheating has had sex with multiple people. That's because they experience 'levels' of sex (good, bad, awful, fan-freaking-tastic), and can easily become unsatisfied when they think the sex-level is slipping.

Only 0.3% of "Christian" affairs are the result of people getting 'tired' with the one spouse.

And - as I've said repeatedly, I know not everyone get's addicted to sex! But what happens if you are the 1 in 70 (or whatever the stats are) that ARE?! Christians (again, as I said before) prefer not to take that risk.

And it's not JUST about the trust thing, either. That's just the most common-sensical explanation used... It's also quite exciting to share that 'special something' with the person you plan to spend your life with. If you've done it with every second girl on the street, there's nothing super-duper fantastic about it.

Another reason is pregnancy. Despite the pill, condoms etc etc, you can never NEVER guarantee with 100% confidence that something won't go wrong. The condom might break, as well as all other manner of things. What happens if the girl DOES fall pregnant?! Christians don't believe in abortion (that is a generalisation. There's debate when it comes to things like pregnancy after rape etc), and they certainly don't believe in just walking away and dumping child support with the mum every month...

I could go on, but there's no need to....